“Perhaps you’ve been told you don’t belong. Perhaps you’ve believed it. I’m here to tell you that not only is there a place for you at this table, but you are also an honoured guest.”Joel Hollier.
This week on the Spiritual Misfits podcast we have a delightful and important conversation with the wonderful Joel Hollier. Joel is one clever fella with degrees in social work and theology, and a PhD in Behavioural Science. He’s also a co-paster of New City Church.
Joel has a story to tell that many of us would benefit from hearing. As a gay Christian, Joel spent many years preaching that this required celibacy. Through his journey grappling with scripture and listening to the Holy Spirit Joel came to be very ok with marrying another man and continuing to follow Jesus and minister as a pastor.
In this episode we talk about trauma and the psychological harm and abuse sexually and gender diverse people can experience in spiritual settings. If these are part of your story, this episode may bring things up. So be gentle with yourself, decide if listening is going to be helpful and reach out for support if you need it.
If you are a church leader, and/or if you hold a traditionalist view in these matters, this may be a confronting listen for you, but listening is the very least we can do for our LGBTQI+ siblings – so please, can I encourage you, take the time and listen well — trying to place aside your judgments at the outset. There’s nothing to lose from listening.
Joel is a deeply gracious, kind and inspiring human. We can all learn from him. Click here for our conversation, or use the podcast player below – Episode title: ‘Dr Joel Hollier on finding a place at the table’.
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